SNAFU - Delta Medallion Qualifying Segments
Tue, Dec 22 2009 08:08
| Platinum, MQ segments, Flyer, Delta, snafu, MQM segments, Medallion, Frequent, MQM, mediallion qualifying, frequent flyer
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[Update: apparently the word is out that Delta's activity information is errant. Must be that the Skymiles retrieval system is also hosed, since each representative I talked to called me by a different first and last name, so I had to give my account number to each rep. Was funny for the first two, but after three separate names, it made me wonder what's happening to the "new" Delta.]
[Update 2, January 2010: Apparently Delta is willing to put technology into place that doesn't fully work. See follow-on blog post for more details]
For those of us who don't live at a major Delta hub (Atlanta, Cincy, JFK, Salt Lake City, etc) one fact of life is the need to fly through a hub to get to another location.
For instance, if I want to fly from Asheville, NC, to New York's Laguardia (LGA), I either have to fly through Atlanta or Cincinnati. This means one short hop (typically less than 500 miles) and one longer leg (typically longer than 500 miles) for a total of two legs or segments.
The downside is a significant amount of flying in small planes that act as feeders to larger planes.
The upside is that Delta's Medallion status can be achieved by segments, rather than just by miles. Called MQM segments or MQ segments, the allow someone living at a smaller airport has the chance to achieve a Medallion status equal to those who might fly direct flights from a hub city.
There was a controversy a few years ago when Delta scrapped segments and only used miles for Medallion qualification, and the company admirably came around when it realized it was losing customers in smaller cities to competitors, adding the MQM segments and MQM miles to the mix.
Now, however, Delta's completely hosed its Delta.com online activity viewing. This problem occurred about three weeks ago, more than a month after Delta and Northwest merged their frequent flyer accounts.
The problem started when Delta added a column that is called MQ Segments Earned. It was compounded when Delta chose to combine segments together for the feeder and long-haul flights.
The end result is a snafu that's eliminating the ability for the frequent flyer to view his or her flights and segments. Here's an example:
This example is from November, where four flights were taking - two short hop and two long hauls - with the 500 mile MQMs (Medallion Qualifying Miles) being listed correctly, but the segments showing as zero. Is Delta doing away with MQM segments?
To add confusion to the mix, it is no longer possible to view each flight segment. Dropping down into the monthly view, here are the flights that match the miles for the first two flights:
Notice that it shows TWO flight segments departing SFO on back-to-back days (not impossible but highly unlikely) and are differing lengths (500 and 2139 miles, respectively). In reality, one flight left SFO on the 19th and flew for 2139 miles to Atlanta, arriving on the 20th; the second flight left Atlanta on the 20th of November and arrived at TRI that same day.
To add even more confusion, the most recent issue is a retroactive combining of flights under a single flight number. Here's an example from October:
Notice the repeat of "air activity" between Midway and Richmond with two separate mileages (500 and 590 miles) but a single flight number (Delta Flight 1044). What isn't listed is Delta 1711, which is the flight from Midway to Atlanta, which then changes to Delta 1044, from Atlanta to Richmond.
Confused? You should be, since most frequently fliers don't have time to send in every single ticket stub for every single flight, nor to call or email after every single flight.
Confusion also reigns for Delta representatives, including those at the web assistance desk. The most frequent response I got when talking to five representatives from the Medallion, Skymiles and Web desks was:
"Hmm, it must be that you stopped at an airport along the route of your trip."
This means it's up to the frequent flyer to explain what's happened, without the benefit of flight numbers (unless someone remembers to keep their ticket stubs for almost multiple months).
It also means that Delta's got a real issue on its hands at the end of the year, especially for those of us who may be close to gaining another level of Medallion status but don't have the time to go back through every single one of our flights for the year to confirm mileage/segments.
Management at Delta.com was not available for comment, even after repeated requests, and those I spoke to continued to say they have made repeated requests to have this addressed yet have received no timeframe for a fix.
One knowledgeable representative did say that over 4,000 emails have been received by those who are requesting confirmation of their yearly flights / status levels. Makes one wonder if it would be easier to move to another airline than have to constantly babysit an errant frequent flier activity account.
[Update 2, January 2010: Apparently Delta is willing to put technology into place that doesn't fully work. See follow-on blog post for more details]
For those of us who don't live at a major Delta hub (Atlanta, Cincy, JFK, Salt Lake City, etc) one fact of life is the need to fly through a hub to get to another location.
For instance, if I want to fly from Asheville, NC, to New York's Laguardia (LGA), I either have to fly through Atlanta or Cincinnati. This means one short hop (typically less than 500 miles) and one longer leg (typically longer than 500 miles) for a total of two legs or segments.
The downside is a significant amount of flying in small planes that act as feeders to larger planes.
The upside is that Delta's Medallion status can be achieved by segments, rather than just by miles. Called MQM segments or MQ segments, the allow someone living at a smaller airport has the chance to achieve a Medallion status equal to those who might fly direct flights from a hub city.
There was a controversy a few years ago when Delta scrapped segments and only used miles for Medallion qualification, and the company admirably came around when it realized it was losing customers in smaller cities to competitors, adding the MQM segments and MQM miles to the mix.
Now, however, Delta's completely hosed its Delta.com online activity viewing. This problem occurred about three weeks ago, more than a month after Delta and Northwest merged their frequent flyer accounts.
The problem started when Delta added a column that is called MQ Segments Earned. It was compounded when Delta chose to combine segments together for the feeder and long-haul flights.
The end result is a snafu that's eliminating the ability for the frequent flyer to view his or her flights and segments. Here's an example:
This example is from November, where four flights were taking - two short hop and two long hauls - with the 500 mile MQMs (Medallion Qualifying Miles) being listed correctly, but the segments showing as zero. Is Delta doing away with MQM segments?
To add confusion to the mix, it is no longer possible to view each flight segment. Dropping down into the monthly view, here are the flights that match the miles for the first two flights:
Notice that it shows TWO flight segments departing SFO on back-to-back days (not impossible but highly unlikely) and are differing lengths (500 and 2139 miles, respectively). In reality, one flight left SFO on the 19th and flew for 2139 miles to Atlanta, arriving on the 20th; the second flight left Atlanta on the 20th of November and arrived at TRI that same day.
To add even more confusion, the most recent issue is a retroactive combining of flights under a single flight number. Here's an example from October:
Notice the repeat of "air activity" between Midway and Richmond with two separate mileages (500 and 590 miles) but a single flight number (Delta Flight 1044). What isn't listed is Delta 1711, which is the flight from Midway to Atlanta, which then changes to Delta 1044, from Atlanta to Richmond.
Confused? You should be, since most frequently fliers don't have time to send in every single ticket stub for every single flight, nor to call or email after every single flight.
Confusion also reigns for Delta representatives, including those at the web assistance desk. The most frequent response I got when talking to five representatives from the Medallion, Skymiles and Web desks was:
"Hmm, it must be that you stopped at an airport along the route of your trip."
This means it's up to the frequent flyer to explain what's happened, without the benefit of flight numbers (unless someone remembers to keep their ticket stubs for almost multiple months).
It also means that Delta's got a real issue on its hands at the end of the year, especially for those of us who may be close to gaining another level of Medallion status but don't have the time to go back through every single one of our flights for the year to confirm mileage/segments.
Management at Delta.com was not available for comment, even after repeated requests, and those I spoke to continued to say they have made repeated requests to have this addressed yet have received no timeframe for a fix.
One knowledgeable representative did say that over 4,000 emails have been received by those who are requesting confirmation of their yearly flights / status levels. Makes one wonder if it would be easier to move to another airline than have to constantly babysit an errant frequent flier activity account.
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SNAFU - Delta credit only meals
Mon, Nov 9 2009 01:40
| Platinum, dumb idea, Delta, credit, Domestic, snafu, cash, Medallion, Northwest
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Remember when airlines cut out meals on flights on short-hauls, followed by long-haul domestic flights?
Imagine what would happen if you weren't able to eat on a flight, even if you had low blood sugar, for the singular reason that you forgot your credit card. . . .
Imagine what would happen if you weren't able to eat on a flight, even if you had low blood sugar, for the singular reason that you forgot your credit card. . . .
Delta's decided to do away with cash on all domestic and select international routes (including Mexico, Canada and the Bahamas). So if you don't have a credit card, or if your credit card is declined, you won't eat.
The idea sounds good, but the practicality is somewhat different. Let me use an example from my own recent experience.
I fly Delta. I fly Delta frequently.
I fly Delta frequently enough that I'm what they consider a Platinum Medallion, which means that I'm in a position to often get upgraded to First Class on most coast-to-coat domestic flights.
Yet, in this particular instance, I would have been subjected to the inability to eat from LAX to ATL, at least a four-hour flight.
I ended up in LA without my credit cards, but didn't notice it until I landed on my flight from Atlanta, mainly because I was bumped to First Class and didn't have to reach for my non-existent wallet to buy a meal.
After being on the ground for three days, two of those over a weekend, I was unable to get a replacement credit card before my return flight. I also needed to subsist on what I had in my pocket, until Monday morning, when I could visit a bank branch and verify my identity (with my passport, of all things).
The return flight from LA to Atlanta was full enough that I didn't end up in First Class, so I had to use the last $8 in my pocket to buy food on the plane (I'd withdrawn what the bank would let me, but had to pay for a hotel, etc.)
If that event had taken place anytime after December 1, 2009, I would not be able to even buy a meal.
That would not have been acceptable for reasons of both well-being and health.
Think, Delta, think! Do you want to lose frequent fliers just because you choose to disengage from cold hard cash?
The idea sounds good, but the practicality is somewhat different. Let me use an example from my own recent experience.
I fly Delta. I fly Delta frequently.
I fly Delta frequently enough that I'm what they consider a Platinum Medallion, which means that I'm in a position to often get upgraded to First Class on most coast-to-coat domestic flights.
Yet, in this particular instance, I would have been subjected to the inability to eat from LAX to ATL, at least a four-hour flight.
I ended up in LA without my credit cards, but didn't notice it until I landed on my flight from Atlanta, mainly because I was bumped to First Class and didn't have to reach for my non-existent wallet to buy a meal.
After being on the ground for three days, two of those over a weekend, I was unable to get a replacement credit card before my return flight. I also needed to subsist on what I had in my pocket, until Monday morning, when I could visit a bank branch and verify my identity (with my passport, of all things).
The return flight from LA to Atlanta was full enough that I didn't end up in First Class, so I had to use the last $8 in my pocket to buy food on the plane (I'd withdrawn what the bank would let me, but had to pay for a hotel, etc.)
If that event had taken place anytime after December 1, 2009, I would not be able to even buy a meal.
That would not have been acceptable for reasons of both well-being and health.
Think, Delta, think! Do you want to lose frequent fliers just because you choose to disengage from cold hard cash?
